Gillan on tv yesterday

“this is the deep purple we know and love, right?”, and they show a live clip of Burn :slight_smile:

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Proceeds to show Glenn and David on screen, and then to top it off, shows “new music” from =1. Poor Ian, he was an awfully good sport here. I was laughing I found the whole farce so comical!

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Exactly!

First video: rough cut of Highway Star
Second video: MK III
Third video: Smoke modern comic book version
Fourth video: Pictures of You, not exactly from Splat!

Whoever was responsible for selecting the video clip clearly doesn’t know much about Purple’s discography. :laughing:

I am happy to say I have just secured an interview with Ian Gillan :slight_smile:

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Please Phil,
ask BigIan if he’ll give us a solo album with a different vibe from Purple’s music,
we need it!

And ask him if it’s possible to get the Abandon reissue unlock situation, it’s become a ghost record by now!

and ask him what he and the other MKII members think of Abandon, which is a controversial album among fans.
(For example, I actually consider it superior to Purpendicular, but many fans regard it as an inferior album compared to the later ones of the Morse era.)

Thank you, whether you ask these questions or not!

I only want to know more about Mitzi!

Hooray! Ian Gillan has denounced deep Purple being called ‘Heavy Metal’. Get the fireworks out, even a little fairy floss perhaps. It is ‘official’ The term ‘Heavy Metal’ has been thrown into the dustbin in regard to being associated with DP. Or should I just proclaim that 'the King has spoken"! Cheers.

Did we really need BigIan’s confirmation to realize that DP were never heavy metal?

The interesting thing about this interview is when Gillan says that I play with Lars Ulrich.

very surprised by this revelation,
I immediately went looking for a video, and this is the least bad one I found in terms of sound quality:

The guitarist to BigIan’s left is Michael Lee Jackson, right?

Lars as a DP fan of course knew all the original parts of Ian and played them, but with his own feel which is more akin to Cozy Powell than Little Ian. Well, what can you expect.

Yup, that’s Michael.

To me DP is heavy rock, a music that shares the guitar riff emphasis with hard rock, but sounds overall fuller than, say , Cream or The Who would have, coming into being in the late 60s, early 70s. It’s more of a sonic onslaught and denser than hard rock and it is music created for big venues. Ian is right, heavy rock paved the way for heavy metal.

Hard Rock is to me more something like Mott the Hoople,

https://youtu.be/zvFpX98EOPo

or Thin Lizzy

https://youtu.be/djhcELfqaIA

even the Stones have more than a handful of numbers I would consider hard rock.

https://youtu.be/DARZS3ipWoI

The Kinks too, through incessant US tours, hard rocked their live act up quite a bit in the 70s.

https://youtu.be/s_xA6sH9kkQ

Alice Cooper was hard rock to me too.

https://youtu.be/_chvDLF26X4

But it’s all a matter of perspective, I remember Sade

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doing a blind listen of songs in the 80s and they played this then already old Bowie number to her

https://youtu.be/-olWhdDQEec

and she winced, pulling a face: “Ugh, now that is way too rocky for me, is that David Bowie? I prefer David when he’s not that heavy …”.

And Bowie himself thought what he did with the Spiders of Mars in his Ziggy Stardust era “was essentially British hard rock like everyone else was doing at the time, but I grew out of it”.

https://youtu.be/yEmGQYCuc6M

I think I will give Lars a miss attempting to play Smoke. Cannot imagine that. I have never thought of Ian Paice as a hard rock drummer, even to this day. He can hit them, but when we listen to Purple records he just isn’t that sort of player. The heaviness in Purple comes from the guitar riffs, bass guitar and the mighty Hammond. Throw in a few powerful singers here and there and that is what defines the hard or heavy to me in Purple. Not Ian’s drumming. What is the heaviest Purple album? In Rock and even on that it isn’t because of Ian’s drumming. This is NOT a ‘negative’ take on Paice’s drumming at all. Purely an observation that has spanned approximately 54 years or so. Same with Bill Bruford, not a hard hitter at all, even though he played in Crimson, which could get seriously heavy at times. Here’s a thought, maybe we could place King Crimson in the heavy metal category. Robert Fripp has played some mean and dirty heavy riffs at times. Surely that is enough, isn’t it? Cheers.

You have a very good point there, Herr MacGregor, it’s not Little Ian that contributes chiefly to the heaviness of DP, he adds other - just as vital - things. Actually a bit like Bill Ward did in Sabbath though Little Ian has of course more technical finesse.

I never thought of it that way, but you’re right. Maybe that is why Paicey never sounds “out of place”, even when he plays non-DP music with PAL or Macca.

When DC replaced original WS drummer Dave Dowle (who I thought did a fine job, first time I saw WS, he still drummed for them) with Little Ian, I did not think the change in sound as drastic as when Cozy took over the sticks from Ian. Little Ian was maybe a little heavier than Dowle, but not much. If anything he was more flashy, even In WS where Paicey toned down his exuberant drumming quite a bit.

There were quite a few guests on that tour. In Toronto he had Jeff Healey guesting on WABMC, so I’m not surprised that Lars has snuck in at some point :upside_down_face:

Yep, short(ish) curly hair — that’s him. That whole Gillan’s Inn tour was basically his doing, he acted as a producer, tour manager, Gillan’s minder, guitar player, and what not.

I agree with the Whitesnake drumming comparisons. Different drummers, well some of them and it can be significant, Paice to Powell as you stated. Remember the Tommy Aldridge from Lee Kerslake one in the O$Bourne band in 1981. I will never forget another drummer I knew who was right into all that metal and rock music. He didn’t even notice the difference in those two drummers. He just took it that because Aldridge and Rudy Sarzo were on the photo of the Diary of a Madman cover insert, that Aldridge was the drummer on the album. I thought he was joking when he was raving about Aldridge’s great intro on the song Over The Mountain and amongst other songs etc. He then thought I was trying to be funny when I started telling him about the situation. Then he started looking a tad embarrassed about it all. Some people just don’t ‘listen’ to their chosen instruments as such, even if played by another musician. Anyway look at the Keith Moon to Kenney Jones comparison. Cozy to Bob Rondinelli is another one and the list is a long one. Lee Kerslake not in UH, other drummers are so different to Lee as was Lee to the earlier 70’s Heep drummers. Cheers.